he builds a couple of different size tractrix horns. Dr Morbius a new pair of Khorns will sound fabulous. Enjoy my friends, now back to our Altec mdl. Altec Intriguing, Daddy Dee, but I think (since the wife is just a little tired of my projects) I'll go with what we already planned on which is a new pair of Klipschorns.unless you think getting an older pair of Khorns and modding it like you did with the Tractrix is really the way to go? They can take power better than an original Altec 19 network. altec Just spent all day comparing Tannoy 15'' Gold, JBL 4430, Altec The 19s go beyond 20k with the original diapgragms in them. The jubs have been in the house about 7 months now, & I have only listened, have not even started the cosmetic plans of staining the center panel's to match walls & still kicking around different options for grill cloth etc. The A7-500-8 features improved high-frequency And in the Cornwall, a full-range domestic loudspeaker that is well regarded, a direct radiator, ported bass is used. Sounds like you have found them underwhelming. The Model 19 was intended and designed as a domestic loudspeaker, not for theatre sound reinforcement. I've only heard a modded model 19's and they were amazing. bluesboy No mean feat. It was to prove that the 511b would go below 500 Hz down to 400. The bottom end is there but not so predominant until the power is applied and at that point things are Your link has been automatically embedded. Powered by Invision Community. I have Model 19s in the downstairs kitchen, and modded 63 Khorns in the man cave, and they both are outstanding. In my experience, the Model 19 is preferable to either Klipsch speaker I owned. Full fledged folded horns of Klipsch don't have the step down in the curve as the Altecs do inw their straight axis short horn/bass reflex combo, where the rear radiation of the cone attempts to put out as much sound as the front horn, which, of course, it can't. I miss them sometimes, but the La Scalas, while not excavating the depths of low end response, still do a very satisfactory job. The difference is likely lower distortion of the Khorn. "Are the Vintage altecs as desirable as the klipsch seems to be?". Paste as plain text instead, $178.24 for 24 months with PayPal Credit* Buy It Now. Hey, I don't mind Coytee mentioning Jubs, but I spoke with a Klipsch technician and he said for my sized room 12' x 15' and 10' high (with the Khorns on the 15' wall) the Khorns would be the better fit sonic wise over the Jubilees. you note that the jubilees, 'in themselves have not made me a happier man. Look man, I hate to break it to you but all horns shout. Yeh. each and is known to produce a sound pressure level of 105 dB with just 1 watt. well, the Khorns and LaScalas both use the venerable K-401 horn. especially with the wife tired of projects, it's a can't go wrong option! (You must log in or sign up to reply here. I know that the new 2004's are rated at having a 450Hz crossover at a 6db slope, but previously, the "accepted" value was 400Hz or a bit lower like 375Hz. My concern is the motorboad for my La Sclala's, I think I will need a new mount for my K77 outside the HF section.". I can't listen to the Klipsch for very long periods of time on SS. Paste as plain text instead, ). One nice thing about this dilemma is that if you buy used speakers of this quality at a reasonable price, you can live with them for a few months or years and get most or all of your money out of them when you sell them. Take heart, there will soon be an answer to the WAF and the horn upgrade! 5) The Altec A-7s sound much like the much bigger Altecs used with the magnetic stereo widescreen movies of the late '50s and the '60s, except that the bigger ones had more authority and more bass. In picking out a speaker, I would rank extended listening as much more important than spec sheets, or even independent testing. Much better bass than the A7 cabinet. Some call them plug uglies, but I could care less when I am listening, for me its all about the reproduction of music. I just got a pair of 19's after years of looking and they are just great. Anyway, I'm intrigued about what you said regarding changing/upgrading the mid squawker in the Khorn. I know you'll enjoy the process of getting a new pair of these legendary speakers! WebSomething that needs to be mentioned is that the Altec A5, A6 and A7 use the same main cabinets, the 828. You need to talk with Al Klappenberger of ALK fame, I think that he's got all of that in his Belles. The driver on my 511B horn is the Altec 808-8a CD. ). I am interested in mating my K55M to an Altec 511 but have been having trouble finding them. They are making new ones for original Altec tools. 811 is 800Hz, 511 is 500Hz, 311 is 300Hz. Upload or insert images from URL. Yes, the A7s didn't have a great low frequency response, and their high end They pioneered two way design and were the industry standard in recording studios for years. I noticed you used JBL drivers in your Belles. WebFind many great new & used options and get the best deals for Set of 2 Two Vintage Altec Lansing A7 Speakers Wood Cabinets at the best online prices at eBay! I know Al K. is using them on his Belles for sure. Of couse, I am wasting my breath on a Klispch forum typing thishaha. Copyright 2022 Klipsch Group, Inc. KLIPSCH or ALTEC ? | Audiokarma Home Audio Stereo I keep reading about how nice the mid-range Tactrix horns are.is Klipsch now (at this time) building new Klipschorn speakers with the Tactrix mid range horns??? Altec A7 Voice of the Theater VOTT Speakers - Altec horns Altec Changing either one is vertually impossible without a total redesign! Just a fun debate for me. Pasted as rich text. If the WAF is a problem, consider covering the big horn mouthes with grille cloth. Some of you talk about the 19s as tho they were the A7 voice of the theaters. I can't wait to hear this setup! What crossover frequency were you planning on using? It is not the only hammer in the toolbox. The A7's are really nice from the upper bass to the top end. $12,000), the finish DOES matter to a significant degree. Altec specs are also not necessarily useful. Thank you, man! Altec 604 coaxial - 2-Channel Home Audio - The Klipsch Audio Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. I have owned all the Heritage series except the Bella's & the Chorus, In my listening room (without good corners & several other undesirable architectural traits, the Jubs have given me the best performance. Studio monitor class. This is a win-win situation. Price: US $4,000.00. All of which I've already said in this thread. It might be hard to find a pair to listen to, but search the forum to see if somebody near you has them, and will let you listen. Posted January 20, 2005. Many Altec sheets used to say their tweeters went out to 22K Hz, but I have never seen this confirmed by other testers. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. In my personal opinion the K-horn is , as I ca. So I took the best of both worlds. I think you both will like them very much, both for their aesthetic qualities and their incredible sound. Display as a link instead, Altec Alternatives Article By Dan Schmalle - Enjoy the Music.com First off, and IMO very importantly, the 19s have much better extended HF responseinfact, the Khorns don't go much over 17k. If someone is contemplating new Khorns then I think they might want to know about the Jubilee's. Schu What are the physical dimmensions for the horn. Klipsch was a brilliant engineer, but I think the midrange driver, K 55 V, he used in the heritage line was not of exceptionally high quality. On 1/20/2005 8:40:10 AM Al Klappenberger wrote: Guys, The only comparison plots I did was of the K55 on an Altec 511b horn versus on a It takes me about a month of really careful listening and comparison to really get over this novelty effect and come to an understanding of what each pair of speakers really sounds like. Free shipping for many products! I wish I had an option to get some new khorns. Including the guy who had $500 and was thinking of Fortes. Naturally, keep all July 7, 2009 in Technical/Restorations. Did he say why (in detail)? Blister8160 he has both & can give an honest assessment of the differences. So much of your preference depends on your listening habits, the kind of music you prefer, your room, electronics, etc. Electrovoice Aristocrat vs Heresy, vs Cornwall vs Klipschorn Here's the 1953 plans. Altec Model 19 vs . Klipschorn - The Klipsch Audio Community All of the different speakers & various amps have been a wonderful learning experience along the way, I was financially fortunate enough to take my hobby & Klipsch journey to Mr. Pauls final creation,. What is the amplification used for Amphion and how do they sound? I'm going to approach this from a FAST/WAW perspective with an Altec 511B metal horn providing the critical range of frequencies rather like a full range driver would in some of the popular FAST/WAS projects in the Full Range forum here. They are small compared to an A7 or an A5 and they consequently give up LF performance as small vented boxes. Absolutely not.what a silly question.[] As far as the JBL/Beyma tweeters go, I am less certain about that. Altec Been using 511b/902-16a on top of 75' Cornwall bins. both 811 and 511 sound far better than K-400. Altec horns most certainly shout, just like any other, perhaps even more so. Altec Model 19 vs Klipsch La Scala - Vinnie - High Efficiency Speaker Asylum Altec Model 19 vs Klipsch La Scala Posted by Vinnie (A) on November 12, 2009 at 17:50:19 Wondering if anyone has ever had the oppurtunity to hear these two classic speakers side by side? Scaling it up for a 15" woofer would be a very interesting project. What do you recommend? Altec Waiting on Xenforo to set a date for installing the upgrades. All except for the part about dealing with the shortcomings of horn shout, which is a problem that cannot be solved. ). However- different takes on what might be a good approach, explore the posts by The difference between A5 and A7 is the HF horn: the former uses one of the multi cells, the latter the sectoral type horn. Upload or insert images from URL. Altec Voice of the Theatre on thevintageknob.org He has them in a very large room and they sound very nice as it is, but there is definitely room for improvement. I have never been a fan of aluminum or titanium tweeters. Thanks for the info on your Klipschorn modded with tactrix mids. What driver would you recommend for the 511B horn? 290 driver: 116 dB SPL. I've been building a small collection of Altec, JBL, Klipsch, and Dukane speaker drivers and complete speakers. wouldn't suggest that any BRAND of Since I am almost 70 now, I thought I better do it now,, tomorrow is always an unknown [8-)] especially at my age. You cannot paste images directly. It won't interfere with the woofer at all. " It's a home-build DIY 6SN7 driven 2A3 3.5Wpc amp: very nice 2A3 amp. This is a sample of Klipsch's Flagship speaker displayed on their website! 1 watched in the last 24 hours. Al, Did you ever plot an Altec 808 in a K-400? this can result in this site earning a commission. klipsch Versus Altec Lansing - The Klipsch Audio